Pamela Connolly and Cathy McGuinness, of the excellent, yearning, grinding melody-wranglers Pillow Queens, are “coming down from being on tour”, after a run of European gigs supporting the Los Angeles band Lord Huron.

“A lot of it is just because your days aren’t structured as much any more,” Connolly, who sings and plays guitar and bass, says. “But a lot of it is probably 25 days in a row of drinking, even if it was just one or two drinks. I can imagine your body’s just, like, ‘Uuurgh’.”

“A tour is quite jam-packed,” McGuinness, who plays guitar, says. “You drive to the destination, you soundcheck, you eat, you play, you sell merch.”

“I’ve had to be my full social self for 25 days in a row,” Connolly says.

Was it good?

“It was great, really, really, really good.”

“Paris just felt like it soared,” McGuinness adds. “It feels like we’ve levelled up in a scary way. There was an intensity.”

“This is our first significant tour without Rachel,” Connolly says about Rachel Lyons, the band’s long-time drummer, who recently left to pursue another career. “It’s a hard one to adjust to when you’re bringing other people into a dynamic that you’ve built over the years. It can be a bit strange, but it’s also quite refreshing as well, to see how our sound changes as we grow.”

“I think it made us all individually reflect on where we’re at with Pillow Queens,” McGuinness says. “I feel like there’s a new energy ...