Tell me about your decision to debate Charlie: who the invitation came from, how you decided, why you thought it was important.

It was Dartmouth, I believe. They reached out to my team, I said I would do it.

Charlie Kirk is a conservative firebrand who has seen a lot more real, organic growth, especially with his TikToks, in the last couple of years leading up to the election, and certainly during the election and in the aftermath of the election. He is someone who is very well connected to the administration. I donโ€™t usually shy away from debating people like that. I think itโ€™s good, and maybe even productive, to have this kind of back-and-forth discourse to show what his worldview looks like and to test it against mine.

How do we heal the discourse?

I donโ€™t think itโ€™s ne

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