This April, on the day before her 91st birthday, Jane Goodall recorded the conversation that would make her the oldest-ever guest on the podcast Call Her Daddy. Like Khloe Kardashian and Chappell Roan before her, Goodall sat in a plush pink armchair opposite host Alex Cooper, who lobbed personal questions across the ottoman. Cooper had warned her audience that the conversation “might be a little different” from the usual gossip about sex and relationships. But Goodall was willing to dish, recalling that in 1963, after the National Geographic Society began supporting her research on chimpanzees and she made her first appearance on the cover of its magazine, disgruntled male colleagues commented that “they wouldn’t put her on the cover if she didn’t have nice legs.”

“If somebody said that today, they’d be sued, right?” Goodall said to Cooper. “Back then, all I wanted was to get back to the chimps, so if my legs were getting me the money—thank you, legs!

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